Comments for Quality Horse Hay Information and Transport http://www.qualityhorsehay.com All About Horse hay, Transportation and equine accessories... Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:49:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 Comment on Would You Know What To do If Your Horse Was Severely Injured by edpcreations http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2814 edpcreations Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:17:59 +0000 http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2814 Horses love to run....and when they get in the gate they are so excited they just want to go..... My horse was galloping in a fox hunt, when 2 horses came up to pass him....although my horse was less fit then them he put back his ears and really tried to dig in and go faster. What makes Olympic racers want to run? What drives car racers to win? (no pun intended) :) Horses are flight animals...which also makes them want to run when excited.....they also have a strong herd instinct and hate getting left behind Barbaro had so much adrenalin...remember how he broke out early?...and did not want to get left behind....and he was in shock...the jockey said that he probably knew Barbaro was hurt before Barbaro did. If you were to put a riderless horse that never raced before into the gate and then start the race, the horse (assuming that he is not afraid of the gate) would not come out as fast as the other horses, but as soon as it saw the others take off, it would start running after them.<br><b>References : </b><br> Horses love to run….and when they get in the gate they are so excited they just want to go…..
My horse was galloping in a fox hunt, when 2 horses came up to pass him….although my horse was less fit then them he put back his ears and really tried to dig in and go faster.
What makes Olympic racers want to run? What drives car racers to win? (no pun intended) :)
Horses are flight animals…which also makes them want to run when excited…..they also have a strong herd instinct and hate getting left behind
Barbaro had so much adrenalin…remember how he broke out early?…and did not want to get left behind….and he was in shock…the jockey said that he probably knew Barbaro was hurt before Barbaro did.
If you were to put a riderless horse that never raced before into the gate and then start the race, the horse (assuming that he is not afraid of the gate) would not come out as fast as the other horses, but as soon as it saw the others take off, it would start running after them.
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]]> Comment on Would You Know What To do If Your Horse Was Severely Injured by dracomullet http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2813 dracomullet Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:15:59 +0000 http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2813 I have to say it is the basic fight or flight instinct. Horses are built more for the flight, they are good at it. When a horse gets spooked, it will bolt. TB's are bred down for their speed and stamina. This selective breeding produces horses that are easily trained to break from a gait and race away. The jockey may signal a horse that things are okay and the horse will hold back, then the jockey tenses and asks the horse for more speed, the horse senses this as a need to run away faster. Jockeys race toward the finish line, horses run away from something. If the horse injures itself, the thing it thinks it is running from is still there. In nature the weak or injured are the ones who get eaten.<br><b>References : </b><br> I have to say it is the basic fight or flight instinct. Horses are built more for the flight, they are good at it. When a horse gets spooked, it will bolt. TB's are bred down for their speed and stamina. This selective breeding produces horses that are easily trained to break from a gait and race away. The jockey may signal a horse that things are okay and the horse will hold back, then the jockey tenses and asks the horse for more speed, the horse senses this as a need to run away faster. Jockeys race toward the finish line, horses run away from something. If the horse injures itself, the thing it thinks it is running from is still there. In nature the weak or injured are the ones who get eaten.
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]]> Comment on Would You Know What To do If Your Horse Was Severely Injured by horse_girl916 http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2812 horse_girl916 Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:13:59 +0000 http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2812 most of them are stallions and they all have a natural tendency to want to be better than each other and the jockeys make them run so once they catch on to what they are supposed to do the try hard and do it really well because they feel good when they beat the other horses there are some horses who dont enjoy racing and they only run because of the whip, personally i think horse racing would be better without whips because the ones who dont enjoy it never win anyway the winners almost always love racing and put their heart into the race and give it everything they got that is why they keep trying even when they are hurt because Barbaro has heart, some are scared and try to run from their injury i'm praying for Barbaro to and I really hope he gets better, i feel so sorry for him he really needs to get better so his suffering through surgry and recovery wasnt for nothing<br><b>References : </b><br> most of them are stallions and they all have a natural tendency to want to be better than each other and the jockeys make them run so once they catch on to what they are supposed to do the try hard and do it really well because they feel good when they beat the other horses

there are some horses who dont enjoy racing and they only run because of the whip, personally i think horse racing would be better without whips because the ones who dont enjoy it never win anyway the winners almost always love racing and put their heart into the race and give it everything they got that is why they keep trying even when they are hurt because Barbaro has heart, some are scared and try to run from their injury

i'm praying for Barbaro to and I really hope he gets better, i feel so sorry for him he really needs to get better so his suffering through surgry and recovery wasnt for nothing
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]]> Comment on Would You Know What To do If Your Horse Was Severely Injured by killroy69love http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2811 killroy69love Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:11:59 +0000 http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2811 the jockey rides them to win the horse just likes running<br><b>References : </b><br> the jockey rides them to win the horse just likes running
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]]> Comment on Would You Know What To do If Your Horse Was Severely Injured by Nanette145 http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2810 Nanette145 Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:09:59 +0000 http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2810 Hello, Many long years ago, I was on the show circuit, jumping. As was the trainer of Barbaro. Stallions, particularly TB's love to run, as do all horses. I've many times warmed up my Holsteiners, warm bloods, as opposed to hot bloods which thoroughbreds are, and let them have a good old fashioned run, and if they are running against another horse, it is extremely hard to get a horse to stop, particularly a TB. Even though he was hurt, he still wanted to compete, and jockeys, as they have to weigh usually under 117 lbs have an extremely hard time getting them to stop when the horse see's the other horses keep going. Many people think that in their ferrel state, the stallion leads a herd of horses. He does not. He stays at the back of the herd, making sure that nothing could hurt any of his mares or babies, and the lead mare or the Alpha mare is usually leading the rest of the herd, particularly if there is danger near. The stallion stays in back running back and forth making sure that nothing can attack his mares or foals. Another thing about when a horse gets injured. As in all mammals, they go into a shocky state, and don't really feel the injury for a few seconds, and his jockey was doing his utmost to try and get him stopped so he could hop off, but he had to stay on the horse until he came to a complete stop so he not only could get off safely, but most important have hold of the horse so he couldn't do any more damage to himself. Stallions are very competative animals, which is why most TB stallions if not used for racing or breeding, are gelded because they can be a handful. I own warmbloods now, and their temperament is so much different than that of a TB. My stallion loves to play toss the towel, but then he is only half TB and half Holsteiner and weighs about 400 lbs more than a race horse. He seems to have broken his leg above and below the ankle and its the lower break that is the worst, as there are two bones down there called the sesmoid bones that run from the ankle to the hoof, which is what makes his injury so bad. I hope I have explained why horses love to run, however even when I started out riding the 2 year olds, and a race horse is considered 2 January 1, and if he was a late foal like Barbaro (he was born April 29 which would make him just 3) I did not like getting on horses at 18 months of age that had just been taken out of the fields with very little handling. To this day I still think that TB's should not race at the age of 2. With our Holsteiners we wait until they are 3 and a half to 4 before we even get on their backs, as their legs are going to be subjected to awful pounding later in their life when we start jumping them, which we do not do until after the age of 5 when a horse is considered mature. Hope this answers your questions, and I too shall say a prayer for him. Sincerely, Nanette<br><b>References : </b><br>http://www.AHHA.org Hello,
Many long years ago, I was on the show circuit, jumping. As was the trainer of Barbaro.
Stallions, particularly TB's love to run, as do all horses. I've many times warmed up my Holsteiners, warm bloods, as opposed to hot bloods which thoroughbreds are, and let them have a good old fashioned run, and if they are running against another horse, it is extremely hard to get a horse to stop, particularly a TB.
Even though he was hurt, he still wanted to compete, and jockeys, as they have to weigh usually under 117 lbs have an extremely hard time getting them to stop when the horse see's the other horses keep going.
Many people think that in their ferrel state, the stallion leads a herd of horses. He does not. He stays at the back of the herd, making sure that nothing could hurt any of his mares or babies, and the lead mare or the Alpha mare is usually leading the rest of the herd, particularly if there is danger near. The stallion stays in back running back and forth making sure that nothing can attack his mares or foals.
Another thing about when a horse gets injured. As in all mammals, they go into a shocky state, and don't really feel the injury for a few seconds, and his jockey was doing his utmost to try and get him stopped so he could hop off, but he had to stay on the horse until he came to a complete stop so he not only could get off safely, but most important have hold of the horse so he couldn't do any more damage to himself. Stallions are very competative animals, which is why most TB stallions if not used for racing or breeding, are gelded because they can be a handful. I own warmbloods now, and their temperament is so much different than that of a TB. My stallion loves to play toss the towel, but then he is only half TB and half Holsteiner and weighs about 400 lbs more than a race horse.
He seems to have broken his leg above and below the ankle and its the lower break that is the worst, as there are two bones down there called the sesmoid bones that run from the ankle to the hoof, which is what makes his injury so bad.
I hope I have explained why horses love to run, however even when I started out riding the 2 year olds, and a race horse is considered 2 January 1, and if he was a late foal like Barbaro (he was born April 29 which would make him just 3) I did not like getting on horses at 18 months of age that had just been taken out of the fields with very little handling. To this day I still think that TB's should not race at the age of 2. With our Holsteiners we wait until they are 3 and a half to 4 before we even get on their backs, as their legs are going to be subjected to awful pounding later in their life when we start jumping them, which we do not do until after the age of 5 when a horse is considered mature.
Hope this answers your questions, and I too shall say a prayer for him.
Sincerely,
Nanette
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]]> Comment on Would You Know What To do If Your Horse Was Severely Injured by Barb L http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2809 Barb L Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:07:59 +0000 http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2809 Bulshit! Sneezes1234, you are the most barbarically ignorant person I have ever heard! Do you have horses? Have you ever competed in a horseback event? Horses love to race, even regular horses. They don't have to be thoroughbreds to love to run! I have a 1/2 American Saddlebred 1/2 Arabian filly who has been clocked at 42 mph with the pick up! She will race her own shadow! AND I HAVE NEVER EVER USED A WHIP ON HER!!!! Sometimes you will see a jockey kind of tap a horse on the neck or rear, that is not whipping, it is merely to keep the mind on the job at hand!!! Now on a stretch run, oh yes the horses do get whipped, but that is no different from a barrel racer whipping her horse as they turn the 3rd barrel! The object is to win, but if a horse is whipped excessively as they are racing, sometimes they will get afraid to be in front! Then what do you do with a $80,000. or $90,000. horse who quits as soon as they get in front? Not to mention the jockey, who takes his life into his (or her) hands at every race would never get to ride another race for a trainer who's horse he abused! These are very expensive animals and must be treated as such! If a jockey is out in front of a big field of horses and his mount just up and quits running, he is liable to get ran over by the whole field, crippling or killing his mount, himself, and the rest of the field. Do you remember Secretariat? His jockey was paralyzed by a racing accident. So even tho I got off the subject a bit, no these animals are not abused or beat to run. They want to win, they want to run. They know when they win, they are praised, they probably get a special treat, and there is the black eyed susans for a wreath, or the wreath of roses after the Derby. So please don't insult the intelligence of the horse racing industry by saying these athletes are beat to perform!<br><b>References : </b><br> Bulshit! Sneezes1234, you are the most barbarically ignorant person I have ever heard! Do you have horses? Have you ever competed in a horseback event? Horses love to race, even regular horses. They don't have to be thoroughbreds to love to run! I have a 1/2 American Saddlebred 1/2 Arabian filly who has been clocked at 42 mph with the pick up! She will race her own shadow! AND I HAVE NEVER EVER USED A WHIP ON HER!!!! Sometimes you will see a jockey kind of tap a horse on the neck or rear, that is not whipping, it is merely to keep the mind on the job at hand!!! Now on a stretch run, oh yes the horses do get whipped, but that is no different from a barrel racer whipping her horse as they turn the 3rd barrel! The object is to win, but if a horse is whipped excessively as they are racing, sometimes they will get afraid to be in front! Then what do you do with a $80,000. or $90,000. horse who quits as soon as they get in front? Not to mention the jockey, who takes his life into his (or her) hands at every race would never get to ride another race for a trainer who's horse he abused! These are very expensive animals and must be treated as such! If a jockey is out in front of a big field of horses and his mount just up and quits running, he is liable to get ran over by the whole field, crippling or killing his mount, himself, and the rest of the field. Do you remember Secretariat? His jockey was paralyzed by a racing accident. So even tho I got off the subject a bit, no these animals are not abused or beat to run. They want to win, they want to run. They know when they win, they are praised, they probably get a special treat, and there is the black eyed susans for a wreath, or the wreath of roses after the Derby. So please don't insult the intelligence of the horse racing industry by saying these athletes are beat to perform!
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]]> Comment on Would You Know What To do If Your Horse Was Severely Injured by angelfmlj http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2808 angelfmlj Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:05:59 +0000 http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2808 I think it's the same reason that humans do it. Some animals are just competitive by nature. Racehorses are specially bred to race. That's why you don't see draft horses running around the track.<br><b>References : </b><br> I think it's the same reason that humans do it. Some animals are just competitive by nature. Racehorses are specially bred to race. That's why you don't see draft horses running around the track.
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]]> Comment on Would You Know What To do If Your Horse Was Severely Injured by ginaforu5448 http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2807 ginaforu5448 Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:03:59 +0000 http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2807 I have an Aunt and Uncle who breeds horses. For some reason, only those that have been bred by champion horses really has a chance of winning. I really do not know why, but training on top of good breeding gives the horse what he needs to win.<br><b>References : </b><br> I have an Aunt and Uncle who breeds horses. For some reason, only those that have been bred by champion horses really has a chance of winning. I really do not know why, but training on top of good breeding gives the horse what he needs to win.
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]]> Comment on Would You Know What To do If Your Horse Was Severely Injured by ducotti999 http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2806 ducotti999 Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:01:59 +0000 http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2806 A simple smack on the @ss!<br><b>References : </b><br> A simple smack on the @ss!
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]]> Comment on Would You Know What To do If Your Horse Was Severely Injured by sneezes1234 http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2805 sneezes1234 Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:59:59 +0000 http://www.qualityhorsehay.com/horse/would-you-know-what-to-do-if-your-horse-was-severely-injured-2#comment-2805 they dont want to, they are forced and taught to. what drives them to win is a WHIP.<br><b>References : </b><br> they dont want to, they are forced and taught to. what drives them to win is a WHIP.
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